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Combining Varshaphal and Birth Charts


Varshaphal charts are intended to give a microscopic viewpoint of the chart of the individual karmic pattern of the individual. Literally, Varshaphal means ―fruit of the year‖. But the Varshaphal chart, at least as I was taught it, was never intended to be a chart that was interpreted independently of the annual chart. As a matter of fact, the notable teacher from India, Dr. K.S. Charak, who lectured on Varshaphal and other Indian astrological techniques, insisted that the Varshaphal chart would never manifest anything that did not show in the natal chart.

If this is true, why even study the Varshaphal chart? First of all, similar to certain types of Jaimini systems, the Varshaphal reveals at an instant what the birth chart can only show through intensive analysis. The Varshaphal places a microscope over the entire chart and focuses all of the Jyotish elements in one year. Secondly, most classical Vedic systems use the Moon as the sole predictive indicator. The Varshaphal chart, refreshingly, takes certain perspectives from the Sun and/or like certain elements in Jaimini (the Jaimini Karakas) and other types of predictive systems contained within the Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra (specifically Karaka dasas), allows the degrees of the planets some role in when their effects will manifest. Finally, it allows individuals the perspective of judging a single year based upon a single starting point that is eminently recognizable to most individuals. To be quite honest, to the layman (and even to certain astrologers) the Jyotish system as it is currently practiced is quite complicated, and the timing of mahadasas by date is often very difficult to follow. Why not give the consumer of astrology a standard reference point, such as an overview of how their year will be?

The Varshaphal chart also charts the progress of the soul...where the Sun sits and how the person’s evolution is progressing. This is an important element to map in a person’s life.


The single easiest way to calculate a Varshaphal chart is the method specified in the Uttara Kalamrita. Essentially, one should just figure out the degrees and minutes at which the Sun sat when you were born, then figure out when the Sun will reach that same position during the year in question. Because degrees and minutes will be included in the calculation, one can estimate the lagna (the sign rising in the Eastern horizon as well. This can be calculated quite easily using an ephemeris for those who do not possess a computerized program. For those who have a computer program but who do not have a ―Varshaphal‖ option, locating the sun placement is a bit of trial and error, but one can usually get the exact degrees and minutes, and this will produce the entire chart for you. Finally, the commercially available larger vedic astrology programs contain Varshaphal calculation and charts as installed options—just input the year you desire and you will be all set. (One element of Varshaphal that I will not discuss in this lecture is the sahams, not because they are invalid but because this will exceed the time limits of this lecture.)

Varga charts

Standard varga charts are calculated as they are in the birth chart for the year. So the sixteen standard varga charts are included in most Varshaphal calculations. These can be interpreted in the same way that the natal chart vargas are to be interpreted. In addition, there are several additional varga charts that are apparently derived from the Tajika (Varshaphal) system. The primary additional vargas that are introduced into Jyotish are:

The Panchamsa – the one-fifth divisional chart: Useful for matters connected to children, creativity, past-life credit, mantras and other related matters. This chart can be interpreted in the same way as a natal chart can be interpreted, but it yields the best results when one looks at the fifth house in this chart, Jupiter, Venus and the fifth lords in this chart, the varshaphal chart and the natal chart.

The Shastamsa – the one-sixth divisional chart: Useful for assessing health matters, enemies and obstacles. This chart should be analyzed by looking at the sixth house in this chart, Saturn, Mars, Ketu and Rahu, and the sixth house lords of this, the varshaphal and natal charts. Spiritual sadhana or service can also be assessed through this chart.

The Ashtamsa – the one-eighth divisional chart. This chart can be used to assess long term obstacles in life, problems in relationships, hidden problems and even chronic illnesses (that could lead to death) for the individual. Again one would look at the eighth house in this chart, Saturn, Mars, Rahu and Ketu and the lords of the eighth house in this chart, the birth chart and the annual chart.

The Ekadamsa – the one-eleventh divisional chart. The Ekadamsa chart is used to assess financial gains, friendships, status, and elder siblings. The factors to look at in this chart are the eleventh house in this chart; the eleventh lord in the natal chart, in the annual chart and in this chart, as well as Jupiter, Venus and Mars.

Muntha and Year Lord.

The Muntha is the progressed rising sign in the birth chart. Basically this is used for determining the central focus of the year and is also considered when interpreting which planet should be ―lord of the year‖. The major idea behind the Muntha is that it is good when placed in a benefic house (such as the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 10th, or 11th houses), difficult placed in the 4th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 12th houses.
(Please keep in mind that planets in the eighth and twelfth houses are not necessarily evil; as a matter of fact, they can produce surprising increases in status during their periods, especially if the individual is unselfish or engaged in some kind of spiritual practice or service.)

There are five planets that are considered office bearers in Varshaphal charts. These are the:

1) Muntha Pati or the lord of the sign in which the Muntha is placed
2) Janma Lagna Pati or the lord of the ascendant in the birth chart
3) Varsha lagna or the lord of the ascendant in the annual chart
4) Tri Rasi Pati or the lord of the Tri-Rasi (this changes from sign to sign according to whether the Varshapravesha rising sign occurs during the day time or the night time.

For Aries rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Sun; the night time is Jupiter. For Taurus rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is Venus; the night time is Moon.

For Gemini rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is Saturn; the night time is Mercury. For Cancer rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Venus; the night time is Mars. For Leo rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Jupiter; the night time is the Sun. For Virgo rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Moon; the night time is Venus. For Libra rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Mercury; the night time is Saturn. For Scorpio rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is Mars; the night time is Venus.

For Sagittarius rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is Saturn ; the night time is Jupiter. For Capricorn rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is Mars; the night time is Mars.

For Aquarius rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Jupiter; the night time is Jupiter. For Pisces rising, the day time Tri-Rasi Pati is the Moon; the night time is the Moon.

5)Dina-Ratri Pati or the lord of the Sun sign occurring during the day time or the lord of the Moon sign if the Varshapravesha occurs at night.

The lord of the year should meet two essential qualifications.

1) It must aspect the Varshaphal rising sign (Varshapravesha) 2) It must be the strongest of the planets aspecting the lagna.

In cases where no office bearer aspects the rising sign, the Muntha lord automatically becomes the year lord. According to some sources, the Moon can never become the year lord. According to others, this restriction does not apply. Strength is determined from the status of the planets according to the Pancha-vargiya bala, a rather complicated system of assessing planetary strength. As the name implies, five factors are used:

a) Griha bala or Kshetra Bala – points assigned if a planet is in its own house. 30 points are the most given for a planet in its own sign. The low point is 7.5 for a planet in an enemy’s sign.

b) Uccha bala – as the name implies, points are given based upon how close a planet is to its exaltation sign. The most a planet can get for being at highest exaltation is 20 units; the least is zero (for deep debilitation). There are a series of calculations using degrees and minutes in order to calculate the points for planets between highest exaltation and lowest debilitation.

c) Hudda bala- a special feature of this system found nowhere else in Hindu astrology. Each sign is divided into five parts, each with its own hudda or leader (the Sun and Moon do not own any huddas). If a planet falls in its own Hudda, it gets 15 points (the most); in a friend’s Hudda, 11:15 points, in an enemy’s Hudda, 3:45 points. The calculations for this are actually a bit complicated and outside the realm of this article.

d) Drekkana Bala—This is a direct quote from Dr. K. S. Charak’s text, Varshaphala. ―The Drekkana lords for the consideration of the Pancha-Vargiya bala is different from those in the Parashari system. Here the lord of the first drekkana in Aries is Mars. The lords of the first drekkana in the successive rashis are the planets that fall in regular order from Mars onwards (i.e. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, and Saturn. Begin the second drekkana of Aries from the Sun and proceed in the same order. The cycle continues through the third drekkana of Aries, with its lord Venus, until the third drekkana of Pisces, whose lord happens to be Mars. This method of determining the Drekkana lord is only applicable to the Pancha-Vargiya Bala.‖ (p.59)

e) Navamsa bala—Unlike the drekkana bala indicated above, the Navamsa is calculated as in Parasari astrology, so lords of planets in their own signs receive 10 points and lords of planets in
enemy signs receive 2.5 points, and planets in friend’s signs receive 7.5 points.

These are then tabulated and the planets with the most reduced points becomes the strongest planet.

Special Tajika Mahadasas The Patyayini Dasa

I actually prefer this mahadasa to the standard mahadasas used in Vedic astrology, because it is NOT nakshatra-based and seems to be unique to every annual chart. In this system, the longitudes of the seven planets and the ascendant cusp, are recorded in signs, degrees and minutes. Like the chara karakas specified in the Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, the signs are ignored and the remaining degrees, minutes (and seconds) are noted as the Krishamshas in ascending order. This ascending order determines the dasa order in the Patyayini system. So the planet (or ascendant) with the lowest number of degrees [in its sign] is the first dasa under this system.

The calculation of the length of the periods is judged in a different way. Starting with the planet that has the lowest number of degrees, this gets a patyamsha equal to its degrees in its sign. The degrees of the first planet are subtracted from the planet next highest in degree, and the difference between the two is the patyamsha of the next planet. The degrees of the second planet are then subtracted from the third planet in order to generate the next patyamsha, and so forth. After the patyamshas have been calculated, the duration of the periods is calculated using the following formula to calculate the number of days in each period:

Take 365 days times the Patyamsha (of the planet in question) divided by the highest degree value (also called the Krishamsha value) of the planets in question.

This formula will render the days for each subperiod. The antardasas are calculated by taking the same proportion of time for a dasa as they do for an entire year.

Mudda Dasa

This mahadasa might be more appealing for those used to the Vimsottri mahadasa system. In order to calculate the mudda dasa, do the following.

1) Take the number of years of life completed. Add to this the nakshatra number at birth. If it is Krittika, for example, add three), then subtract two (the number 2), then divide this by 9. Ignore the quotient. The remainder gives the dasa operating that year. A remainder of 1 would give the Sun; 2 the Moon; 3 Mars; 4 Rahu; 5 Jupiter; 6 Saturn; 7 Mercury; 8 Ketu; 0 Venus. In other words, the normal Vimshottari sequence compressed into a year starting with a lunar position progressed by one Nakshatra a year.

2) In order to calculate the balance of the dasa, use the balance of the birth dasa. The remainder of the birth dasa period will be the same as the balance of the birth dasa percentage as contained in your natal chart. As a result of the method, the mahadasa of the year is almost invariably the one after the one that the previous year ended with. Of course, the new year does have different planetary positions, so there will often be major change from one year to the next.

Alternate Mudda Dasa

According to the Utttara Kalamrita , one of my favorite Jyotish texts, one can take the dasa lord of the annual chart’s Moon nakshatra as being the starting mahadasa in the annual chart. The simplicity of this approach appeals to me, and I have found that it gives extremely good results. (I have used a similar technique in determining the timing of prashna charts.)

Which Dasa?

Take your pick. By far the most interesting thing that I have noticed about Jyotish is that different modalities of prediction work consistently well if one uses the same reference base. Transposing a 360 day system on top of a 365 day system will not produce similar results, but using two 365 day systems (or two 360 day systems) will.

Can one use other dasas on the Varshaphal chart?

In my opinion, yes. Dr. Charak had said he good results when he used the Yogini mahadasa system a few years ago (whatever happened to the interest in Yogini?) and I have experimented with compressed (one year) Jaimini Chara dasa and Kalachakra dasa systems to good effect, so long as one follows the interpretational rules contained in each system.

Yogas in Varshaphal

The use of yogas has always seemed to be a bit suspect to me, as I think you can garner the same results by careful chart analysis as one can from yogas, but there are special yogas in the Varshaphal system. I would like to mention the two most important, as these tend to show very good results when interpreting these charts.

The Ithasala Yoga. This occurs when a faster moving planet is behind a slower moving one and will ―catch up‖ to the slower moving planet by aspect or conjunction. There are special conditions attached to this yoga, and if any of the conditions fail to manifest, the yoga will not fructify. Retrograde motion will cancel the yoga, for example, and planets must be in their ―orbs of influence‖ for the yoga to work. If it does fructify, it is a yoga of good fortune. Because of all of the conditions that can spoil an ithisala yoga or its variants, a true unspoilt ithisala is pretty rare.

Ishrafa Yoga is a separating yoga, occurring when a faster moving planet is moving away from a slower one. This is considered a combination for misfortune.

Most of the Varshaphal Yogas are variations on these two combinations. It is also acceptable to use

Parashari Yogas in the Varshaphal system.

Special Condition in the Varshaphal Chart

A year in which the rising sign for the Varshaphal chart is the same as the birth chart rising sign is considered a difficult year for the person whose chart is being analyzed. There will either be personal injury or loss of money during this year.

Combining the Natal Chart and the Annual Chart—Tried Techniques

One of the more obvious techniques that can be used for comparing the two charts is to compare the rising sign house for the Varshaphal Year with that of the rising sign for the natal chart. If the rising sign of the Varshaphal chart is the 2nd house, it will show a focus on money, in the fifth house an increase of focus on children; if in the seventh house it will show a focus on marriage. If in the ninth or eleventh houses, it will show an emphasis on status or luck. So this is the first step one should take in analyzing a Varshaphal chart compared with a natal chart. Next, check the Muntha point in the chart.

The second step is to look at the changeable karakas, such as the Atma Karaka in the birth chart and check its location in the Varshaphal chart. If the Atma Karaka planet is well placed in the Varshaphal chart, the year will be beneficial to the native, if it is badly placed, then luck and personal health will be adversely affected. Go down the list. Check the Amatya Karaka (career indicator) next; then the Bhatri Karaka (desires, skills and brothers); Matri Karaka (mother, education, status) next; Pitri/Putri Karaka (children, creativity, intelligence, father); Gnati Karaka (service, illness, servants); Dara Karaka (wife, partnerships). These planets are the planets in the highest to lowest degree in the birth chart. You can also check the planets that assume these positions in the Varshaphal chart. These karakas in the varshaphal chart are not quite as strong as they are in the natal chart however. But, if these karakas are the same planets in both the birth and Varshaphal charts, the strength of these planets for producing good and bad effects, according to their significations, are extremely strong.

The other thing you want to look for is the placement of the planets in the Varshaphal chart in relation to the natal chart. If you want to get practical about it, the birth chart is a transit chart for the time that a person is born; the Varshaphal chart is essentially a transit chart of the year in question. Is Jupiter transiting a good position in the natal chart; is Saturn, the Nodes or Mars? Some Sun signs are very sensitive every year to transits from the inner planets; for example, those with Virgo suns will often have debilitated Venuses and exalted Mercury’s in a Varshaphal chart; those with Pisces or Aquarius suns are prone to debilitated Mercury’s and exalted Venus. The Capricorn and Cancer axis has similar situations with strong and weak Mars, for example. These all have to be factored in when analyzing the chart.

In analyzing the chart, I would start with the birth chart. The Varshaphal is an ancillary chart that should not be interpreted in isolation from the birth chart. The major thing to keep in mind is that the birth chart should be analyzed in the standard manner, utilizing a standard analysis of the birth chart, including the Parasari aspects, dasas, and harmonic charts.

There are no real shortcuts to analyzing dasas. However when you analyze the Vimshottari Mahadasa -- or whichever Mahadasas you use; I would recommend the Yogini and Tribhagi (a compressed Vimshottri system) if you are partial to nakshatra-based dasas, as these can be used for general purposes or the Chara dasa introduced by K.N. Rao as accurate systems. Look for the relationship of the Mahadasa lords to each other and there position in the charts as strong or weak, natural benefics or malefics, or as benefic or malefic lords of the chart. There should also be an analysis of the varga charts for in-depth analysis of the date presented.

When you do this, and get a general feel for whether the period will be benefic or malefic, then look at the Varshaphal chart. When you analyze the dasas, you will notice that these are easier to analyze than the birth chart mahadasas because they will manifest within a year’s time. Also, you should keep in mind the principle of applying (ithisala) and separating (ishrafa) aspects as you are reviewing the charts.

In the patyayini mahadasa system you will see the year lord giving very strong and positive results according to where it is placed in the chart. I always check at least this and the mudda dasa results for the year before I pronounce a final judgment upon a year chart. Also, short-term transits of the planets (like a retrograde Mercury or a debilitated Venus or Mars) can produce very telling results on a short-term basis that may not show up in any of the charts! I would look for these in assessing moods of individuals.
I have not covered other special features of Varshaphal, such as the use of Sahams (degrees in the chart that are derived by adding and subtracting certain planets and houses in the Varshaphal chart and also in the natal chart; these produce points in the chart that concern prosperity, knowledge (or Guru), strife, disease and other matters. They have found a home in Western astrology in the form of the Arabic Parts. I have found that Sahams tend to work, but not consistently, implying that many conditions must be met for these points to work properly—but the standard natal chart guidelines I have given above do produce the desired for results; perhaps the sahams are refining points rather than key factors in annual chart interpretation.

In any event, Varshaphal is a fascinating system but is not typically a quick study—it took me a couple of years to get results that I could identify as reliable and consistent—but it is, as said before, a great interpretative tool and a laser beam to accuracy in the year ahead.

Reference Texts:

Charak, Dr. K. S., A Textbook on Varshaphal, Vani Graphics, Delhi, India, 1995. Kalidas (translated by S. S. Sareen, Uttara Kalamrita. Sagar Publications, Delhi, India)

GARY GOMES (GANGADHARA GIRISH / SWAMI KAMPANANDA) is a Hindu Astrologer (Jyotishi) based out of New Bedford and Malden, MA. Gary holds degrees in Sociology and Business Administration from the University of Massachusetts. He is an ordained Swami of the Temple of Kriya Yoga. He has studied Hindu Astrology with several prominent Indian and American astrologers, is certified to instruct Jyotish (Hindu Astrology) by the American Council of Vedic Astrology, has organized an Institute for instruction in Jyotish (Vedic Astrology), and has done charts for thousands of individuals from different parts of the United States and the world. He is also a board member of the American Council of Vedic Astrology. He has also written for several international publications, including The Mountain Astrologer, The International Astrologer, Express Star Teller (Madras, India), Indigo (South Africa), the ACVA Journal, Gochara (Great Britain) and in publications in Australia and France. He has been a speaker at several international astrology conferences. He is also an Assistant Professor of Jyotisha (Hindu Astrology) at the Hindu University of America and is also a Reiki Master. He can be reached for personal, business, and marriage consultations by contacting: CRYSTAL EXPECTATIONS, 854 BROCK AVENUE, NEW BEDFORD, MA 02744, TELEPHONE: (508) 990-7898.
Sally Cheyne McDonald on Sep 26 | Link Comments

Well get ready everyone!

Mars starts its station tomorrow. Then retro for two months. Wonder where we're headed. Don't know about you all, but I've had enough earth excitement for the moment.
Posted by: jm on September 26, 2005 06:53 AM

Speaking of direction chnge, here is the latest from our drenched and unhappy Republican in Louisiana:
>>Given my prior statement, I, at this time, formally renounce the Republican Party. I declare my loyalty to the Democratic Party. I will therefore, change my registration card at the earliest time that I can. I formally declare George W. Bush, to be a criminal, and should be taken at the most expeditious time, and charged with crimes against humanity. This was not an easy thing to follow through with, but my choice is final!! I will therefore, no longer be able to give post, as a Republican.<< Posted by: jm on September 26, 2005 07:03 AM Fantastic pictures from the protest in DC https://www.flickr.com/photos/bootbearwdc/ Posted by: Pallas1800 on September 26, 2005 07:43 AM Hello Everyone, I have been looking at the site over the past few weeks and am available to answer questions. I greatly appreciate your interest! Gary Gomes Posted by: Gary Gomes on September 26, 2005 11:13 AM Gary, thank you for being here and I will most likely have questions once I study the data. I really appreciate very much your sharing your knowledge! Posted by: Laurie on September 26, 2005 12:01 PM Greetings Gary, and thank you so much for this abundance of information. You have shared so much of your knowledge that it will certainly take me awhile to absorb enough to feel that I can ask questions without exposing my ignorance. Again, thank you! Posted by: shylurker on September 26, 2005 02:13 PM Hello, AW, So much has happened over the weekend. Pat QOP, I am so sorry about Eric. You sound so strong, but I know it must be hard. Your personality really comes through in your messages. I feel I have gone through this with you in a small way, even though I mostly only have time to lurk here. I’ll will be another AWer thinking about you. I was at the march Saturday. It was wonderful to be there with so many people who "have their pilot lights on," as one singer at the concert said. One of my favorite posters was: ―Do you know the difference between Viet Nam and Iraq? . . . . Bush had a plan to get out of Nam.‖ There were so many good posters, I can’t remember them now (we took pictures, which should remind me). I loved ―Billionaires for Bush‖ (singing ―All we are saying . . . is Give war a chance‖). I spoke with one rather fragile old man marching with two canes. His sign said he was a World War II vet against the Iraq war. Walking all that way with two canes. The Viet Nam vets made me choke up. My generation. I’m so proud of them. And I really started to cry seeing one middle-aged Canadian woman with the Canadian flag in her hat and a sign saying ―Canadians stand with you guys‖ (why did that get me?). My husband is angry with the press. 150,000 of us demonstrating, and one outlet (AP?) gave one quote from a protester and one quote from the pro-war handful heckling from the sidelines. WaPo did do a front page story on it and a 2-page spread in the front section. Not much reporting on it on the cable news channels that I saw, though. Posted by: Marcia on September 26, 2005 02:22 PM Thought you all might enjoy this: For those of you who don't get HBO, or who missed Bill Maher's show last Friday, here's the text of his message to Shrub. Maher's delivery was hilarious. In print it's just sad. [I don't know, I still think it's pretty funny--Marcia.] """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "Bill Maher from Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO - Sept 10 "Mr. President, this job can't be fun for you any more. There's no more money to spend--you used up all of that. You can't start another war because you used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people. Listen to your Mom. The cupboard's bare, the credit cards maxed out. No one's speaking to you. Mission accomplished. "Now it's time to do what you've always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service and the oil company and the baseball team. It's time. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy or space man? Now I know what you're saying: there's so many other things that you as President could involve yourself in. Please don't. I know, I know. There's a lot left to do. There's a war with Venezuela. Eliminating the sales tax on yachts. Turning the space program over to the church. And Social Security to Fannie Mae. Giving embryos the vote. "But, Sir, none of that is going to happen now. Why? Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You've performed so poorly I'm surprised that you haven't given yourself a medal. You're a catastrophe that walks like a man. Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire city to rising water and snakes. "On your watch, we've lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon and the City of New Orleans. Maybe you're just not lucky. I'm not saying you don't love this country. I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side. "So, yes, God does speak to you. What he is saying is: 'Take a hint.' Posted by: Marcia on September 26, 2005 02:24 PM John Aravosis over at americablog.org has posted at 6:46 9/26 an amazing story (the ones beneath it are very interesting, too, BTW and not so nausea-producing). Although he has blocked out the worst parts of the pictures, it is still sickening to see, so be forewarned. And what was that about Mars, dear jm? Not for the faint of heart, not for those without un-iron-clad stomachs. What will be the official response? And where are those Abu Ghraib photos? OMG, what has happened to us? Will we ever find our way back? Posted by: shylurker on September 26, 2005 02:25 PM shylurker, we don't want to go back. We want to expose it all, so we can learn from it, and have no need to experience it again. That's one of the reasons it's happening (again), we haven't learned what we needed to, and until we do, it just gets horrifically worse. Gary Gomes, this is fascinating work you are sharing with us. Thank you. My first question: how is this system different from utilizing a solar return chart superimposed over a birth chart for a comparison in how one has progressed? I hope that makes sense. To Sally: I wonder how the eclipse on the 3rd? will relate with the Mars retro so close? Posted by: Peg on September 26, 2005 04:12 PM Cindy Sheehan arrested today! https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050926/ap_on_re_us/war_demonstrations Posted by: Laurie on September 26, 2005 07:00 PM Garry, thank you. Like Shylurker, i too hope i'm able to absorb enough to ask an intelligent question (as Peg just did). Marica, i'm just livid about the lack of coverage regarding the DC March. There are estimates of close to 1/2 million people there. One British reporter stated that he watched the line progress four straight hours. A friend said this morning that they were packed nose to nose, elbow to elbow. Our press has reverted (after an odd break during Katrina) to mouthpiece for the regime. There are so many things going on, yet the press focused entirely on Rita, Katrina, Bush's photo ops and Cheney in that order. Only one mention that posse comitatus may be overturned (that on NPR). If it weren't for the absolute horror of what is going on i would be enthralled by the fast paced changes occuring. Question to AWers, adding to Pegs. There is, it appears, increased earthquake activity. Large one just an hour or so ago in Peru (7.0), one in Palm Springs (3.2) and another large on Sunday in Indonesia. Do Mars retrograde periods see increased earthquake activity? And, how might an eclipse play into this scenario, if at all? karen Posted by: farrout on September 26, 2005 07:07 PM farrout: In addition, an earthquake occured last week in California. 4.9 on the scale. NPR hourly news. Posted by: Beverly on September 26, 2005 09:18 PM Gary, Being a student of Vedic Astrology I have enjoyed both of the articles and also I am trying to improve my knowledge on Vedic A. Also I 've read books by BV Raman on Basic Vedic Astrology, Book on Yogas. Do you have a website on Vedic Astrolgy and can you give the website, if you do>
Posted by: Raj on September 26, 2005 09:22 PM
Gary Gomes

Many thanks for sharing your wisdom so generously with us. As you say not a quick study...only two years? I do sense the patterns but see that knowing the symbol rich background of the veda would carry one to a much higher understanding a quantum rather than cartesian astrology...
I find it fascinating.
is at least one site for Gary.
And my thanks to you Sally for for bringing this gift. tseka
Posted by: tseka on September 26, 2005 10:46 PM
For what it is worth, I tried to answer your question about Galloway's speaking prowess near the end of the last entry "Moon Over..." It was close to the end of the thread.
Shylurker, do not despair. 500 rednecks to 100,000 war protestors. The numbers speak to who is prevailing. The whole world IS watching.

Idon't know about the eclipse's effects, but it happens in Cindy Sheehan's first house and squares the EQ of chart of her son's death. It is a cardinal square. I think Equatorial Ascendents may have to do with health, but I'm not sure.
Posted by: Beasley on September 27, 2005 03:58 AM
Has anyone seen this?
https://rawstory.com/news/2005/CBS_News_says_Michael_Brown_rehired_as_FEMA_consult_0 926.html
This is also posted at BuzzFlash. The mind boggles - explodes really.
Brownie rehired by FEMA to investigate himself?
Beam me up, Scotty.
Why - how - astrologically or otherwise can something like this happen without so much public outrage finishing off these - these - ????
Posted by: susan on September 27, 2005 04:36 AM
Thank you Sally and all you fantastic astrologers. I've told friends this is my fav website for all the great astrological insight as it pertains to the world and politics.
I had to share this . So many people I know have called the tollfree number for Congress to oppose Roberts nomination.. but many haven't been able to get through on the main number for Congress, even in the middle of the night?? I read this on the Thom Hartman show and what he suggests is a great idea for anyone that does feel the same way.
1) There is a growing ground swell of opposition to the stealth reactionary John Roberts that can no longer be ignored.
2) To take action there are two alternative toll-free numbers still working, 888-818-6641 and 888-355-3588, plus an action page that will give you all the direct phone and fax numbers of your own senators, https://www.millionphonemarch.com.
I hope this is helpful to you.
Another Sally
Posted by: Sally on September 27, 2005 05:02 AM

Masters of War Bob Dylan
Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin' But build to destroy
You play with my world Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand And you hide from my eyes And you turn and run farther When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes And I see through your brain Like I see through the water That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch When the death count gets higher You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young You might say I'm unlearned But there's one thing I know Though I'm younger than you Even Jesus would never Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
Amen Bobby
Posted by: Starrynights/SN on September 27, 2005 06:57 AM
It seems to me this fellow has been quite active lately... and attracting attention.
The Dalai Lama told 36,000 people at Rutgers Stadium that the concept of war was outdated and young people have a responsibility to make this century one of peace.
The speech was the largest nonathletic event in Rutgers history, topping visits by former President Clinton and former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno.
―This whole planet is just us,‖ the 70-year-old exiled monk said Sunday. ―Therefore, destruction of another area essentially is destruction of yourself.‖
His last statement is probably a little advanced for 36,000, but it doesn't hurt to get it out in the air waves. I wager the crowd was quiet.
Posted by: jm on September 27, 2005 08:27 AM
If Fox News Had Been Covering History...
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 01:09 PM
Parents challenge US 'intelligent design' teaching
· Theory is repackaging of creation dogma, court told · Test case could decide how evolution is taught
Julian Borger in Harrisburg Tuesday September 27, 2005
Religion and science clashed in a drab Pennsylvania courtroom yesterday over a test case that could decide how evolution is taught in America's state schools.
The civil trial, triggered last year by a classroom battle, marks the beginning of the first major legal assault on evolution science in 18 years. The case also represents the first legal test of "intelligent design", the belief that life on earth is too complex to be explained by random genetic mutation and therefor
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 01:46 PM
Molly Ivins...
AUSTIN, Texas -- So here are all the liberals going into a giant snit just because George W. Bush appointed a veterinarian to head the women's health section of the Food and Drug Administration. For Pete's sake, you whiners, the only reason he chose the vet is because Michael Brown wasn't available.

If you recall, Ol' Heckuva-Job Brownie had to go home, walk his dog and then hug his wife after exhausting himself in his triumphal handling of Hurricane Katrina. Otherwise, he'd have been Bush's first pick.
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 01:59 PM
September 27, 2005
Cronies at the Till
The first results are in on who is set to profit from the Katrina cleanup, and - surprise - many of the firms winning major contracts have big political connections. Congressional investigators are already looking into AshBritt, a Pompano Beach, Fla., company with ties to Mississippi's governor, Haley Barbour - the former chairman of the Republican National Committee. AshBritt has nabbed $568 million in contracts for trash removal. Questions have also been raised about the political connections of two other major contractors: the Shaw Group, and Kellogg, Brown & Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton. Both companies have been represented by Joe Allbaugh, President Bush's former campaign manager and the former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency - although Mr. Allbaugh says he does not help any of his clients obtain federal contracts.
And there's more. An article in yesterday's Times by Eric Lipton and Ron Nixon reports that more than 80 percent of the $1.5 billion in contracts signed by FEMA for Katrina work were awarded without bidding or with limited competition. The Times article even finds a federal employee - Richard Skinner, the inspector general for the Homeland Security Department - willing to go on the record with his concern, saying, "We are very apprehensive about what we are seeing."
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 02:08 PM
September 27, 2005
Hurricane Victims Face Tighter Limits on Bankruptcy
When Congress agreed this spring to tighten the bankruptcy laws and crack down on consumers who took on debt irresponsibly, no one had the victims of Hurricane Katrina in mind.
But four weeks after New Orleans flooded and tens of thousands of other residents of the Gulf Coast also lost their homes and livelihoods, a stricter new personal bankruptcy law scheduled to take effect on Oct. 17 is likely to deliver another blow to those dislocated by the storm.

The law was intended to keep individuals from taking on debts they had no intention of paying off. But many once-solvent Katrina victims are likely to be caught up in the net intended to catch deadbeats.
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/27/business/27bankrupt.html?ei=5094&en=59682518c87426f 9&hp=&ex=1127880000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 02:21 PM
Letter from a Birmingham Jail [King, Jr.]
April 16, 1963
While confined here in the Birmingham city jail, I came across your recent statement calling my present activities "unwise and untimely." Seldom do I pause to answer criticism of my work and ideas. If I sought to answer all the criticisms that cross my desk, my secretaries would have little time for anything other than such correspondence in the course of the day, and I would have no time for constructive work. But since I feel that you are men of genuine good will and that your criticisms are sincerely set forth, I want to try to answer your statements in what I hope will be patient and reasonable terms.
Posted by: Pat C on September 27, 2005 02:51 PM
jm - Isn't the Dalai Lama just Brilliant! He was in town here in Houston on Thursday and I think he may have been the reason Rita kept on sliding east to a less populated area. I wish I could have gone to see him, but the tickets went to college students first for free and they went fast. There was also a symposium later that night at $1000 per person. Way out of my budget...maybe one day....
Posted by: Cybear on September 27, 2005 03:03 PM
Sun Rises In East. Dog Bites Man. Jim Sensenbrenner Is A Greedy, Callous Liar.
I read in the print edition of the NYT this morning an article stating that Congress had never imagined such a thing as Katrina when passing the Bankruptcy bill earlier this year.
I knew that had to be bullshit -- I remembered countless Democratic efforts to soften various parts of the bill, all of which got shot down by the Republicans -- and Scout Prime confirms it for me:

Go read a copy of the Democratic House Judiciary Staff's dissenting views on the bankruptcy bill that was leaked to RAW STORY prior to the bill's passage. It's right there...
While some people abuse the bankruptcy system, more than 90 percent of debtors file for bankruptcy due to unemployment or underemployment, an illness or accident, or divorce. The bulk of the remainder suffered from other legitimate difficulties, including activation for military service, being a victim of crime or natural disasters, or a death in the family ...
Posted by: Pat C on September 27, 2005 03:24 PM
by Hendrik Hertzberg
Hendrik Hertzberg on a film that sheds light on the nuclear-terrorism threat. Issue of 2005-10-03
Posted 2005-09-26
Movie screenings in private theatres for invited audiences, with drinks, canapés, and opportunities to schmooze with stars and directors, are a favorite tactic of the Manhattan branches of Hollywood’s publicity machines. The goal is to generate buzz, which, with any luck, will trickle down to the ticketbuying masses. Early autumn is a big season for new releases, and last week, what with the opening of the New York Film Festival and all, there were lots of such screenings around town.
One of them was different. Its setting was a modest auditorium in the immodest East Side mansion that houses the Council on Foreign Relations. The audience consisted of diplomats, military officers, international bankers and lawyers, and think-tankers. The speakers after the lights went up were white-haired gentlemen in business suits: Pete Peterson, the council’s chairman; Ted Turner, the billionaire philanthropist and founder of CNN; Warren Buffett, the folk philosopher and fabulously rich investor; Richard Lugar, Republican, the current chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee; and Sam Nunn, Democrat, the retired chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and now head of a nongovernmental organization called the Nuclear Threat Initiative.
The film, ―Last Best Chance,‖ was a bit unusual, too.
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 03:39 PM

Win Some, Lose Many
Flood of news: Lynndie convicted, St. Patrick's Four acquitted, Sheehan arrested, soldiers still dying
Posted by: Pat C on September 27, 2005 04:42 PM
Bring Back Warren Harding by Frank Rich
The New York Times September 25, 2005
THERE are no coincidences. On Monday, as L. Dennis Kozlowski was slapped with 8 to 25 years in jail for looting Tyco International of some $150 million, the feds were making their first arrest of a high-ranking member of the Bush administration. The official was David Safavian, the chief of White House federal procurement policy who once worked for Jack Abramoff, the sleazy Republican lobbyist whose disreputable client list, in another noncoincidence, included Tyco. While it's an accident of timing that Mr. Safavian was collared at his suburban Virginia home just as Mr. Kozlowski was sent to the slammer in New York, the two events could not better bracket a corrupt era worthy of the Gilded Age.
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 04:54 PM
SUSAN WALSH / APHECK OF A JOB? Bush and Brown before the FEMA head resigned From the Magazine | Nation
How Many More Mike Browns Are Out There?
A TIME inquiry finds that at top positions in some vital government agencies, the Bush Administration is putting connections before experience
Posted Sunday, Sep. 25, 2005
In presidential politics, the victor always gets the spoils, and chief among them is the vast warren of offices that make up the federal bureaucracy. Historically, the U.S. public has never paid much attention to the people the President chooses to sit behind those thousands of desks. A benign cronyism is more or less presumed, with old friends and big donors getting comfortable positions and impressive titles, and with few real consequences for the nation.
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 05:15 PM

from Josh Marshall, Talking Points...
September 25, 2005 -- 11:06 PM EDT)
Let's return to the matter of Timothy E. Flanigan, currently awaiting confirmation as Deputy Attorney General of the United States, and Jack Abramoff.
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of our story, Timothy Flanigan was appointed Deputy White House Counsel at the beginning of the Bush administration. He later left that job to become General Counsel of Tyco Corporation, which had relocated to Bermuda to avoid paying taxes to the US Treasury. At Tyco, Flanigan hired Abramoff to fend off legislation which would have forced Tyco to pay its taxes. And, in the course of that hiring and work, Abramoff first boasted of his access to DeLay, Rove and others and then later claimed that he had spoken to Rove and enlisted his assistance on Tyco's behalf.
Posted by: wv on September 27, 2005 05:20 PM Hello Everyone,
The Vedic annual chart is indeed a solar return chart. But it also has an area in it called a Muntha point (which is the progressed ascendant). Usually, this is not done, but you can lay the muntha point and the entire chart over the birth chart, and this will let you know which areas will be hot spots the next year. Of course, the Vedic system also looks at transits; these produce effects in the planetary periods.
Some Vedic Astrologers do work with primary, secondary and tertiary progressions (the late Richard Houck’s book ―The Astrology of Death‖ was based a great deal on tertiary progressions), but these are not normally used in the Vedic system. In some ways, Vimshottri mahadasa is derived from a type of progression system that starts from the Moon—for instance in my chart, the Moon starts in space ruled by Rahu, then the next dasa is ruled by Jupiter, which is the next in sequence, then Saturn, then Mercury. The interesting thing is that the dasa coincides with the ruler of the next point in space, so the Moon is essentially ―moving through‖ these nakshatras, while manifesting the results of its placement in the birth chart.

There is another type of progression called a Bhrigu progression, which moves 2 and one half degrees every year. These work a bit like Western progressions in which grahas hitting grahas produce profound results. But there is so much depth in the Vedic chart, (with harmonic charts, etc.) that many astrologers never even look at these progressions.

There are literally thousands of techniques in the Vedic system; they all tend to give corroborative answers. I personally tend to think the more of these that are used the better; I have never seen them contradict each other. And many have parallels in Western astrology, and Chinese astrology.

All the best, Gary Gomes

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